Curse

Great Gjl · Jun 03, 2005, 09:57 AM // 09:57

Random rare items from quests, instead of useless shitty focus items. I'd like to know I *might* get something worthwhile instead of being assured I'll get handed a steaming pile of crap when I'm done.

Ironsword · Jun 03, 2005, 10:34 AM // 10:34

well all i get these days is pretty much crap and even less now than before i did a mission earlier and i had a total of 4 drops on the whole mission the only saving grace was that i got a major vigor which is my first major since i've been playing and i ascended today so i'm not exactly new i make a pretty decent amount of gold but i'd love to have some of those items i've seen other people trying to sell for outrageous prices in ascalon city i've seen a bunch of firey dragon swords drop but never one for me it's a fairly common weapon and i'd just appreciate a nice reward for my efforts

Corwin_Andros · Jun 03, 2005, 12:58 PM // 12:58

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Originally Posted by FFF_WarRaven

ok maybe i read it wrong but the update says that purple and gold items, at least the ones that are supposed to yeild runes...."will" yeild the runes when u salvo?

is this correct?

What they were saying was that basically all purple or gold armor.. The stuff that should have had a rune before.. WILL..

Basically meaning you aren't gonna get a purple/gold armor that is only an expensive craft item generator that never had a rune in the first place.

I don't know if they tweaked your chances of getting the rune out, but it will be there to unlock at the minimum.

Hope that made sense..

Magik · Jun 03, 2005, 02:15 PM // 14:15

For the pace of the game ( How far you get in missions) compared to drop rates, it's horrible. For the drop rates itself if you spend your whole GW life grinding for items, it's not that bad. The economy is surely sucking though, I mean, the prices and everything is high, but in my opinion, it's too high, it doesn't give a chance for new people to join into the economy with the prices rising like this. It may not be like a crash in the stock market, but rising too much usually leads to crash, so in a while the economy will be like crap perhaps :P

Magik · Jun 03, 2005, 02:18 PM // 14:18

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Originally Posted by FFF_WarRaven

ok maybe i read it wrong but the update says that purple and gold items, at least the ones that are supposed to yeild runes...."will" yeild the runes when u salvo?

is this correct?

cause if so i'd just like to say W T F??? myself and 2 other guild mates went farming and to make a long story short, 5 gold items and 6 or 7 purple items that said they were runes...turned into crappy common crafting items which you get by salvoing all the reg garbage that turns up....

so were talking about several majors and a few Supers?? this really heats me up cause its been like this from the start basically

like i said before why in the hell even get one if i can't get what it says it is ? i'm not even getting a 40/60% or even a 30/70% rate here...maybe its just me i dunno im a lvl 20 ascended and all that jazz blab blab beat the game....

i'm getting extreamly pissed off....esp now that majors and supers are at stupid high prices....i bought a super vigor in the first week for 3k....now they at 15k+ i seen one bought for a price thats more than a gdam sigil!!! wtf are u people thinking?

[ insert /fistshake here ] ( they really need a /strangle emote or maybe /implode or even /spontanious combust ...tho u might bust before u have time to type half of it )

i just dont get it....

also on a side note can anyone tell me if the leet armors for a necro look anything different than the draknors armor? the pictures the merchant displayes looks the same, how the hell am i supposed to know what it looks like and if its really worth my 15,000 gps a peice??? what if i want to mix and match??? i have yet to earn more than 40,000 gps would be nice to have some previews from the merchant before i go and spend all that hard earned gps to find out it looks like crap...

:::End Transmission:::

You're wrong. This is taken from the updates page on Guildwars.com

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# Assured that all uncommon and rare armor drops have an unlockable ability.

# Assured that rare armor drops will always have either a major or superior rune, not a minor rune.

Nokomis · Jun 03, 2005, 03:38 PM // 15:38

[QUOTE=Chev of Hardass]For the last mission, I got 1 purple Titan Armor. In that purple Titan Armor was 1 minor rune of sould reaping. QUOTE]

For some reason I read this typo as a "minor rune of soup reaping".

Now THAT would be a useful rune. Screw all that attack and defense stuff, I want to conjure up a big bowl of chowda.

--Nokomis

Winterclaw · Jun 03, 2005, 04:37 PM // 16:37

I've noticed that sometimes the drop rates improve when you don't have any henchmen with you. Fewer henchmen means more drops. I guess it's like taking a friend out with you but instead of seeing his drops, you don't see the ones the NPC's get. I've got a level 8 E/W and I tried to take only the healer with me to the breach, for better drops and that turned out ok, but not great.

Banned · Jun 05, 2005, 05:18 PM // 17:18

FFF Wawraven, hate to say this but a Superior Vigor RUne goes for minumium 75K. I know people who will line up for a Sup Vigor for 75K, and typically they will pay 100K+!

stumpy · Jun 06, 2005, 05:05 PM // 17:05

Sorry guys ... if your whining about it ... your a baby ... I get 1-2 runes per run ... I am level 20 ... have completed the game and have numerous characters my 4th is level 12... and have yet to get a Superior rune unlocked. Runes should be difficult to attain (not too difficult but currently i think they have increased the drop rate too much)

so please don't cry about it. I see people getting superior runes, just not me. Oh well thats life. Anet's job is to find a decent balance and currently they have flooded the market with runes now. Saddens me but its true. If you are level 20 acended and have reached the fire isles ... I do not intend to offend or upset anyone ... just I fear for the game structure and mechanics .... if they flood runes too much then guess what Guildwars becomes nothing more than a competition style game with no real challenge. I enjoy playing all aspects of the game PvE, PvP ... even playing in the trade ... I love selling a fairly low req weapon to a noob for 1 gold and 3 singed gargoyle skulls.

Runes are already all over the place ...

Calnaion Blackhawk · Jun 06, 2005, 06:00 PM // 18:00

a few runes?
hell im lvl20, ascended and at droknars forge, and my lvl16 is at lions arch and i havent seen a rune ever, apart from my major fire rune i brought...

Winterclaw · Jun 06, 2005, 06:29 PM // 18:29

Caln, your 16 should start seeing them soon. I didn't have one rune before LA and once I was questing in the area, an ettin dropped a gold... too bad I didn't need the skill. After then I've gotten a few more.

Aug · Jun 06, 2005, 06:33 PM // 18:33

Ettins can drop armors? Didn't know that.

IMO the drop rate could certainly be increased. And I think all purples should contain majors, and all golds should contain superiors. It's really frustrating to get your 4th Minor Vigor in a row out of a purple armor.

Raiyen · Jun 06, 2005, 08:03 PM // 20:03

I think the drops are great the way they are now.

Nokomis · Jun 06, 2005, 09:14 PM // 21:14

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Originally Posted by Shagsbeard

No to "better" drops. That way leads to an inflationary spiral and the game spins wildly out of the control of the developers (DAoC).

No to more frequent drops. C'mon... you admit yourself that you are level 14. You haven't even gotten 1/4 the way through the content of the game and you want to change a major facet of the game based on your experience?

Oh please don't pull the "I have been playing this game since forever so YOU can't say anything to me" card. Ugh. Observations and suggestions from all levels of players are valid.

The truth is this game needs to have adequate rewards for people at ALL levels in order to keep people playing and buying add-ons and thus keeping those free servers open for everyone. If even 20% of people who buy the game stop playing at level 10 or level 14 because they get discouraged by grinding, no good drops, or other issues, that is less people to buy the expansions and less people to support this game.

I hear a lot about how this or that gets better later on. But this game shouldn't have flat spots where players get discouraged because rewards seem not worth the grind at certain points of the game.

--Nokomis

Lewick · Jun 06, 2005, 09:15 PM // 21:15

I've been playing since right around release time. In that time, with just guildmates and some henchmen, or even with just me and henchmen, I've amassed a pretty good collection of runes. It's just through exploration that I get the stuff I get. I haven't seen the rate decrease or increase really. It's about the same as it's been since I started.

I have a bank character that stores all this stuff. I think at last count I had 45 minor runes, 10-12 major runes, and 2 superior runes on him, along with a variety of other weapon parts. Granted I play a lot, but I like the exploration of things. Heck, I got 4 new discoveries last night, playing with 1 other human and 6 henchmen.

I guess I'm not sure why people are seeing such a rarity in drops. I get discoveries all the time. Sometimes I'll have armor that doesn't salvage into the rune that's on it, but probably 90% of the time it'll salvage the rune. Heck I got 1 gold and 2 purple armors in Perdition Rock last night just clearing the zone with henchmen.

The random number generator must just be really bad for some folks. I've never had a problem with it though.